Jul 3, 2015

No Pay Band – Grade Pay after 7th Pay Commission

The All India Audit & Accounts Association has met the 7th pay commission on 27-3-2015  to tender its Oral evidence. The Association observed that the 7th pay commission was of the view to discard the Pay Band – grade pay system. The feed back of the Meeting is posted in its Blog. The copy of the report is given below
All India Audit & Accounts Association
CSV Warrier Bhawan
Ghaziabad
Reference : AIA /Circular-10/2015,
dated 28.03.2015
To
Unit Secretaries
Members & Spl Invitees NE & Members of Women’s Committee
Dear Comrades,
Tendering of Oral Evidence before 7 CPC
The 7th CPC had invited the All India Audit & Accounts Association for tendering oral evidence on 27th March 2015 at this office at Qutab Institutional Area, New Delhi. In addition to the Secretary General, Coms M.Duraipandian, V.Nageswara Rao, KL Gautam and Anilkumar appeared before the Commission for the oral evidence. The Commission was present in full strength
The following demands were placed before the Commission:
2. Correcting the distortions in the implementation of 6 CPC recommendations with respect to IA & AD and organised Accounts Viz.
i) grant of GP 4200 to Auditor / Accountant
ii) grant of GP 4600 to SA, granting parity with Assistants of CSS
iii) grant of GP 5400 to AAO on completion of 4 years
3. Grant Promotion to SA to GP 4800 and higher starting pay of PB 2, 5400 to AAO and space for further career advancements for these orders
There was detailed discussion on each of our demands. It was pointed out by us that CAG of India has also recommended each of above demand and also grant of GP 6600 and 7600 to AOs and SAOs. The Chairman appreciated it. The Commission assured to take a positive look on our demands which are also supported by CAG.
The demands were explained in its historical background and also on functional basis. The recommendations of the past pay commissions were also brought to the notice of the CPC. The award by the Central Board of Arbitration in favour of the employees in respect of parity between SA and Assistants in CSS was particularly pointed out. Chairman expressed his unhappiness on the non implementation of the award by the employees and workers.
On our demand for career progression for SA and AAO, the Commission stated that though it is sympathetic it is not sure what could be done, given the hierarchical structure available in IA and AD.
We also raised the issue of re-introduction of Touring Special Pay and pointed out to the Award that was won by the All India Audit & Accounts Association from the Board of Arbitration and its rejection by the Parliament in 2002.
We further requested for introduction of 4 advance increments on passing of Departmental confirmatory examination, explaining the system prevailed before 3rd CPC, recommendation of 3rd CPC following which it was discontinued and its re introduction in 1981 an amount equivalent to 3 increments. We pointed out that the conversion of this qualification pay into deemed allowance after 5 CPC and requested for its re-introduction.
During the discussion the Chairman observed that the commission is of the view to discard the PB-GP System.

ORAL EVIDENCE BY STAFF SIDE NC, JCM

On 23-24 March 2015, the Standing Conïnittee of Staff Side, NC, JCM, tendered the oral evidence before the 7 CPC. The delegation was led by Shri Raghavaiah, Leader, Staff Side and Corn Shiva Gopal Mishra, Secretary, Staff Side.
Com KKN Kutty presented the memorandum on behalf of the NC, JCM. The gist of discussion is given in the enclosed Circular issued by Corn Shiva Gopal Mishra, Secretary, Staff Side.
The Pay Commission stated that the principle that vuld guide to determine the minimum wage shall be Dr Aykroid formula on it (ie 15 ILC norms). It has further stated its intention to do away with pay band/grade pay system. On some other issues, the Pay Commission has sought the views of the Staff Side (which shall be conveyed to the Commission shortly).
With greetings,
Your Fraternally
sd/-
(M.S. Raja)
Secretary General

Jul 1, 2015

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Jun 30, 2015

Expedite completion of 7th Pay Commission: NMC

National Mazdoor Conference (NMC) today urged the Chairman of 7th Pay Commission to expedite completion of its proposals and recommend the report to Jammu and Kashmir government as well. 

"We urge upon the Chairman of 7th Pay Commission to expedite completion of recommendations and get it finalised by the stipulated time so that there is no delay in its implementation in favour of both Centre and state government employees and pensioners," NMC President Subash Shastri said. 

In a memorandum sent to Justice Ashok Kumar Mathur (retd.), Chairman of the 7th Pay Commission, Shastri appealed to recommend its report to state government as well, "So that the gap arising out of implementation of the 7th Pay Commission recommendations does not mainly go against the interest of state government employees and pensioners." 

He also said that keeping in view the rising cost of living, the Pay Commission should effectively formulate strategies to deal with inflation.

Source - business-standard

Assam govt constitutes 7th Pay Commission for state govt employees



Guwahati,  (PTI) The Assam government today announced the constitution of the 7th Pay Commission for the state.

"The Assam Government has decided to constitute the 7th Assam Pay and Productivity Pay Commission 2015," an official release said.

The Commission would submit its report as soon as practicable, but preferably within 15 months from the date of its constitution, it said.

The release said the Commission would look into the principles that govern the structure of emoluments and service conditions of state government employees.

"It will also examine existing amenities given to state government employees like age superannuation, medical benefits, daily allowance etc and such other concerned issues referred to it by the state government," it added.

The Commission comprises retired IAS officer P P Verma as chairman along with Chief Secretary of Assam, retired Secretary to the Personnel Department Kameshwar Laskar, former Cotton College Principal Dilip Baruah as members.

Finance Department Secretary Simanta Thakuria has been appointed as the Member Secretary in the Commission.
SOURCE - niti central

Jun 24, 2015

It’s official that 7th Pay Commission to submit its report soon


We have already posted that work of 7th Pay commission is near completion and its report is expected to come out in the Month of September 2015. Now the 7th Pay Commission has officially stated that all formalities of meeting with stake holders have been completed and now pay commission will not meet any stakeholders further.
This shows that 7th Pay Commission will now study all the data and memorandum available for two moths and report will certainly come out in the month of August or September. Our sources say that 7th Pay Commission will complete its work by August and report will be submitted in the last week of August or first week of September 2015. After that government will take few days to implement the recommendations of 7th Pay Commission. By all means it is certain that Pay Commission will be implemented on 01.01.2016.
Contents put on by the Pay Commission on its website have been reproduced below:-
“Further to the memoranda received from a variety of Organisations, Federations, Groups representing civil employees in the Government of India as also from the Defence Services, the Commission has had fruitful and wide ranging discussions on relevant issues with all stakeholders. Such interactions have now been concluded. Valuable inputs have been received and the work of compilation and finalization of the report is underway, so that the Commission completes its task in the time frame given to it. Accordingly, any future requests for meeting with the Commission will not be entertained.”
Central government employees are eagerly waiting for the 7th Pay Commission report since its inception and they are delighted that their wait is almost over. Government employees are reeling under back breaker inflation with Dearness Allowance already touching sky rocketed figure of 113% and another installment of DA is soon to be announced in July. With the implementation of 7th Pay Commission whole DA is expected to be merged with basic pay. Apart from this Fixation Multiplication Factor is another big thing which will change the fortunes of the employees. Government of India has already upgraded the Indian Cities as far as HRA is concerned, but it would be interesting to watch if pay commission revise 30%, 20% and 10% HRA limits for various cities in India. It is expected that 5% increase in limits for HRA for all types of cities in India would be recommended by the Pay Commission.  Let’s hope it ends well for all Government Employees.
What are the expectations of Central Government Employees from 7th Pay Commission:-
1. General formula for determination of pay scale based on minimum living wage demanded for MTS is pay in PB+GP x 3.7.
2. Annual rate of increment @ 5% of the pay.
3. Fixation of pay on promotion = 2 increments and difference of pay between present and promotional posts (minimum Rs.3000).
4. The pay structure demanded is as under:-
Exiting Proposed (in Rs.)
PB-1, GP Rs.1800              26,000
PB-1, GP Rs.1900]
PB-1, GP Rs.2000]            33,000
PB-1, GP Rs. 2400]
PB-1, GP Rs.2800]           46,000
PB-2, GP Rs.4200             56,000
PB-2, GP Rs.4600]
PB-2, GP Rs.4800]            74,000
PB-2, GP Rs.5400              78,000
5. Dearness Allowances on the basis of 12 monthly average of CPI, Payment on 1st Jan and 1st July every year.
6. Overtime Allowances on the basis of total Pay+DA+Full TA.
7 Liabilities of all Government dues of persons died in harness be waived.
8. Transfer Policy – Group `C and `D Staff should not be transferred. DoPT should issue clear cut guideline as per 5th CPC recommendation. Govt. should from a Transfer Policy in each department for transferring on mutual basis on promotion. Any order issued in violation of policy framed be cancelled by head of department on representation.
9. Transport Allowance –
X Class Cities                                                                  Y Class Cities
Pay up to Rs.75,000 Rs.7500 + DA Rs.3750 + DA          Pay above Rs.75,000 Rs.6500 + DA Rs.3500 + DA

Jun 23, 2015

Benefits and Drawbacks of Pay Band and Grade Pay System – IRTSA Memorandum to 7th CPC

  • Problem of Pay stagnation eliminated
  • Quantum of increment increases exponentially, but the difference is too large at higher levels.
  • Grade Pay decides the hierarchy.
  • Increase of Pay in Pay Band & Grade Pay is not uniform – in favour of higher scales.
  • Arbitrary adoption of formula of 40% of maximum of the merged scales for deciding the Grade Pay.
  • Inadequate rate on annual increment & increment during promotion.
  • Situation of senior promotes getting less pay than Junior direct recruits, is in violation of basic principle of Pay Band system.
i. Problem of stagnation in pay is eliminated, since pay bands are having long spans.
ii. If employees are stagnated at the maximum of any pay band for more than one year, continuously, he/she shall be placed in the immediate next higher pay band without change in the Grade Pay.
iii. Point to point fixation was facilitated by the pay band system, (with one increment in the revised pay cale for every three increments in the pre-revised scale)
  • But the employees with more years of service were placed in a disadvantageous position.
iv. Quantum of increment increases exponentially, instead of fixed rate of increment attached to every pay scale
  • But the difference became very large at higher levels – thus causing discrimination with those at middle & lower levels.
v. Grade Pay decides hierarchy / seniority of the post.
13.2. Main Draw backs of Pay Band and Grade Pay system introduced by 6th CPC
i. Increase between minimum basic pay of prerevised scale and minimum of every Revised Pay Band is not uniform. There is much greater increase in favour of PB-3 & PB-4.
ii. Arbitrary adoption of formula of 40% of maximum of the merged scales for deciding the Grade Pay – instead of progressive and proportionate rise of Grade Pay from one scale to the next.
iii. Disproportionate rise of pay after Sixth Pay commission – due to grant of disproportionate Higher Grade pays in higher scales (S-24 & above) as compared to S-4 to S-23 (Please see details in the following Table and also the table in next page)
Pay BandMinimum of V CPC scaleMinimum of pay bandNo. of times increase of Pay after 6th CPC
1234 (Col. 3 / 2)
S-1255044401.74
PB-1275052001.89
PB-2500093001.86
PB-38000156001.95
PB-414300374002.62
Rise is 3 to 3.37 times at higher levels. (Please see Table at the end of this Chapter)
iv. Rate of annual increment (3% of basic pay) is inadequate.
v. Increment on promotion (difference in grade pay + one additional increment) is inadequate.
vi. Situation of senior promotes getting less pay than Junior direct recruits, is in violation of basic principle of Pay Band system. For example,
a. A JE with five years of service while getting regular promotion from Grade Pay Rs.4200 in PB-2 to Grade Pay Rs.4600 as SSE isfixed at a Basic pay of Rs. 16120 compared to the Direct recruit’s basic pay of Rs.17140.
b. A JE with five years of service while getting promotion (through LDCE) from Grade Pay Rs.4200 in PB-2 to Grade Pay Rs.4800 as AWM/AME/AE is fixed a Basic pay of Rs. 16120 compared to the Direct recruit’s basic pay of Rs.18150.
c. Pay on Promotion should be fixed at least at par with Entry Pay in the Revised Pay Structure for direct recruits.

DISPROPORTIONATE RISE OF PAY AFTER SIXTH PAY COMMISSION
Pay
Band
 
Pay + GP
V CPC minimum pay
Sixth CPC Scale
No. of times increase from V CPC to
VI CPC
Starting pay in Pay band
Grade
Pay
Revised Basic pay
PB-15200-20200+18002750520018007000
2.55
PB-15200-20200+19003050588019007780
2.55
PB-15200-20200+20003200606020008060
2.52
PB-15200-20200+24004000744024009840
2.46
PB-15200-20200+280045008370280011170
2.48
PB-29300-34800+420050009300420013500
2.70
PB-29300-34800+4200550010230420014430
2.62
PB-29300-34800+4200650012090420016290
2.51
PB-29300-34800+4200650012090420016290
2.51
PB-29300-34800+4600745013860460018460
2.48
PB-29300-34800+4800750013950480018750
2.50
PB-29300-34800+5400800014880540020280
2.54
PB-315600-39100+5400800015600540021000
2.63
PB-315600-39100+5400900016740540022140
2.46
PB-315600-39100+5400900016740540022140
2.46
PB-315600-39100+66001032519210660025810
2.50
PB-315600-39100+66001000018600660025200
2.52
PB-315600-39100+66001065019810660026410
2.48
PB-315600-39100+76001200022320760029920
2.49
PB-315600-39100+76001275023720760029920
2.35
PB-315600-39100+76001200022320760029920
2.49
PB-437400-67000+87001430037400870046100
3.22
PB-437400-67000+87001510039690870048390
3.20
PB-437400-67000+89001540039690890048590
3.16
PB-437400-67000+89001640039690890048590
2.96
PB-437400-67000+1000014300374001000047400
3.31
PB-437400-67000+1000018400447001000054700
2.97
HAG67000-790002240067000
2.99
HAG+ Scale775500-800002240075500
3.37
HAG+ Scale775500-800002405075500
3.14
Apex80000 (Fixed)2600080000
3.08
Cab.
Sec.
90000 (Fixed)3000090000
3.00

Jun 22, 2015

Supplementary memorandum to 7th CPC submitted by IRTSA

CHAIRMAN,
SEVENTH CENTRAL PAY COMMISSION,
NEW DELHI.
(Through: Secretary, Seventh CPC by Email to secy-7cpc@nic.in)
Subject: Supplementary Memorandum to 7th Central Pay Commission on behalf of IRTSA
Reference:- 1. Memorandum submitted by IRTSA to 7th CPC on 26th May 2014.
2. Oral evidence & Power Point Presentation by IRTSA on 12th December 2014 at Jodhpur.
In continuation of our memorandum submitted on 26th May 2014 and oral evidence and PPP (Power Point Presentation) before the 7th CPC on 12th Dec, 2015, we submit herewith, this Supplementary Memorandum or Rejoinder – for the kind consideration of the Pay Commission – with additional justification submitted herewith, on the demands of Higher Grade Pay & Classification of posts of Technical Supervisors in Railways.
Some vital facts have come to light on the basis of the information received by us from various sources – especially under the RTI Act etc, which are very essentially need to be placed before the Pay Commission for its kind consideration – in the interest of justice on the related issues in addition to the submissions made by IRTSA in our main memorandum submitted in May, 2014 as well as during the Oral Evidence & Presentation before the Hon’ble 7th Pay Commission on 12th Dec 2014 at Jodhpur.
IRTSA (Indian Railways Technical Supervisors Association) represents about 70,000 Technical Supervisors / Supervising Engineers on the Indian Railways. IRTSA was established nearly 50 years back (in 1965) and is one of the oldest and most widely represented Association of middle management cadre of Technical Supervisors on Railways. We earnestly request that the submissions made in this Supplementary Memorandum may please be considered by the Pay Commission in conjunction with our main Memorandum dated 26-6-2015.
Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
Harchandan Singh
General Secretary / IRTSA
SUPPLEMENTARY MEMORANDUM SUBMITTED BY IRTSA TO SEVENTH CENTRAL PAY COMMISSION
Chapter – 13
BENEFITS & DRAWBACKS OF PAY BAND & GRADE PAY SYSTEM INTRODUCED BY SIXTH CENTRAL PAY COMMISSION
13.1. Benefits& Drawbacks of Pay Band and Grade Pay system introduced by 6th CPC
i. Problem of stagnation in pay is eliminated, since pay bands are having long spans.
ii. If employees are stagnated at the maximum of any pay band for more than one year, continuously,
he/she shall be placed in the immediate next higher pay band without change in the Grade Pay.
iii. Point to point fixation was facilitated by the pay band system, (with one increment in the revised pay scale for every three increments in the pre-revised scale) – But the employees with more years of service were placed in a disadvantageous position.
iv. Quantum of increment increases exponentially, instead of fixed rate of increment attached to every pay scale – But the difference became very large at higher levels – thus causing discrimination with those at middle & lower levels.
v. Grade Pay decides hierarchy / seniority of the post.
13.2. Main Draw backs of Pay Band and Grade Pay system introduced by 6th CPC
i. Increase between minimum basic pay of prerevised scale and minimum of every Revised Pay Band is not uniform. There is much greater increase in favour of PB-3 & PB-4.
ii. Arbitrary adoption of formula of 40% of maximum of the merged scales for deciding the Grade Pay – instead of progressive and proportionate rise of Grade Pay from one scale to the next.
For Complete Memorandum click the link below:-
SOURCE -govemployees.in

Brief of NC JCM meeting with 7th Pay Commission


Brief of NC JCM meeting with 7th Pay Commission

No.NC/JCM/2015
Dated: June 15, 2015
All Constituent Organisations of
National Council(JCM)
Dear Comrades,
As indicated in our last circular letter, the final meeting with the 7th CPC was hled on 9.6.2015. Earlier on 8th afternoon, the Staff side had met separately to chalk out the course of negotiations. The National JCA also met on the same day. The National Anomaly Committee met on 9th June, 2015 at 3.00 pm under the Chairmanship of Joint Secretary (E) Department of Personnel at Room No. 72 North Block, New Delhi. We give hereunder a brief synopsis of the discussions at all the meetings.
The following Staff Side members were present at the Meeting:- Com. M. Raghavaiah(Leader Staff Side – NFIR), Com. Shiva Gopal Mishra(Secretary, Staff Side-AIRF), Com. Guman SinghCom. R.P. Bhatnagar and Com. B.C. Sharma(all from NFIR), Com. Rakhal Dasgupta, Com. J.R. Bhosale (AIRF), Com. KKN Kutty, Com. M.S. Raja and Com. M. Krishnan (from Confederation and NFPE), Com. Srikumar and Com. R.N. Pathak(from AIDEF) Com. Srinivasan and Com. Surjeet Singh( From INDWF).
(a) Date of Effect  The Chairman has made it clear that the Commission would recommend 1.1.2016 as the date of effect of their recommendations. The Commission would finalise its report by end of August and would submit the same to the Government thereafter. They would adopt Dr. Aykroyd formula for the computation of the Minmum wage. To the specific query made by the Staff Side, the Commission said that they would factor the probable increase In the rate of retail prices of the commodities and would arrive at the minimum wage as on 1.1.2016. There had been no reply to the loss of wages to the employees due to the erosion of the real value of wages as there was no interim relief or benefit accrued from the merger of DA. These demands, therefore, stand rejected.
 (b) Increase in the insurance coverage in cases of death in harness  The Staff Side recalled the assurance held out by the Commission earlier to have the actuarial assessed by an expert agency to accede to the demand of the staff side to increase the subscription and the insurance coverage. The Staff Side was of the opinion that their suggestion to share the subscription in the ratio of 3:7 was reasonable but in the absence of an expert study, the Government might not accept the same. The commission said that they would explore the possibility of such an assessment by the LIC before finalization of the report.
(c) Fitment Formula – The Commission might accept the suggestion made by the Staff Side in respect of fitment formula with requisite change in the ratio on the basis of the quantum of minimum wage determined.
 (d) In the matters of rate of increment, quantum of allowances etc. – The Commission did not come out clearly of their thinking in the matter.
 (e) Parity in Pension entitlement of the past and present pensioners – The Commission is yet to make up its mind on the suggestion made by the staff side in the matter. They however said that almost all the Pensioners organizations which met the Commission had pleaded for this and the same is linked with the one rank one pension demand of the Armed forces personnel.
 (f) MACP Scheme  The difficulties and anomalies pointed out by the Staff Side and various other organizations have been taken note of by the Commission. The Commission assured to evolve a methodology to resolve the problem.
 (g) Opposition to the induction of casual/daily rated workers and contractorisation  The Commission said that they were opposed to the unfair practice of exploitation of labour. For jobs which are of perennial and permanent character, regular workers must be recruited, the Commission added and that would obviate the need for outsourcing and contractorisation. Since most of the outsourced jobs do not require any academic qualification, the Commission was of the opinion that the revival of Group D cadre would help to address the issue. However, the Commission stated that if only the staff side sends in a communication in writing, the Commission would be able to make any recommendation in the matter. The Staff Side reiterated that they are totally opposed to outsourcing, induction of casual workers and contractorisation and the same has been made explicit in their memorandum.
 (h) Parity in the pay scales between the personnel in the Central Sectt and those in the subordinate establishments – The Commission stated that they have appreciated the stand taken by the Staff Side in the matter. The Commission was non committal on other issues raised by the Staff Side members.
 The meeting was held at Room No. 72 North Block, under the Chairmanship of J.S(E) Department of Personnel and Training. In the initial remarks, the Staff side raised the following issues.
(a) Though the official side had promised to provide an action taken statement on all issues in the National Council, the same has not been supplied;
 (b) No date for the National Council is indicated.
 (c) No indication of the steps taken to convene the Departmental Councils. The official side had assured of the convening of the Departmental Council of the Ministry of Finance in the last meeting. However, the staff side has not been apprised of any date so far.
(d) Abnormal delay in replying to the references made to the Ministry of Finance, Department of Personnel from the Railways and other Ministries.
 (e) The necessity to increase the ceiling limit of the rebate in Incometax for the allowances given to the Loco Pilots.
 (f) Non-adherence to the GOI instructions by the Defence Ministry in certain matters.
 The Official Side stated that the Action taken Statement was almost ready but for certain comments from Certain departments. The same would be sent to the staff Side and another meeting held to discuss the course of action required on items where no agreement could be reached. The JS (per) stated that some of the references received from the Railways had been sent back to them for clarification before a final decision is taken. Regarding increase in the rebate ceiling under the Income tax Act, the matter would be referred to the revenue department and requested the staff side to appreciate that the same has to be
considered in a wider perspective. Thereafter the agenda items, which had not been discussed even once were taken up.
(i) Anomaly in the Pay Band and Grade Pay assigned to the Group B Officers of the Audit, Income Tax, Accounts, Central Excise and Customs and Postal Departments. (Agenda Item No. 1 and 8 taken together.) Despite agreeing that there existed an anomaly in the matter, the official side expressed their inability to proceed further in the matter as the Group B Officers were beyond the ambit of the JCM scheme. However, they agreed that the Govt. would submit take up the issue specifically with the 7th CPC. Com. Shiva Gopal Mishra said that the Govt. must consider a JCM set up for the promote officers as their cases are not heard or discussed at any other forum. Com. Kutty said that the items were introduced as early as in 2009 and it was not correct on the part of the official side to state that the same would be referred to the 7th CPC. Normally the Pay Commission would not entertain to consider the anomalies of the earlier Commissions. However, after some discussions, it was concluded that the Govt. must take up the issue with the 7th CPC, in spite of the fact that the Commission has almost reached its concluding stage.
 (ii) Anomaly in the pay and Grade Pay of Data Processing Assistants Grade A.. The official side did not agree with the contention that the assigning of higher grade pay to certain categories of officers (7450-11500 and Grade Pay4600) was arbitrary. The Government, they added, had acted upon the recommendation of the 6th CPC. They also said that only in those cases where the pre-revised pay scales were in 6500-10500 such up-gradation had been made. In the case of DPA Grade A, they were in the pre revised scale of pay of Rs. 5500-9000.
 (iii) Item No.3. Grant of Grade pay of Rs. 4200 to Lab Technicians. The official side said that the orders have been issued in the matter.
 (iv) Item No.4. Up-gradation of Pay Band and Grade pay of LDCs and UDCs.
 The Staff Side made the following points in support of the item:-
(a) The Grade pay of Rs. 1900 assigned to LDCs by the 6th CPC was without any logic and without appreciating the existing vertical relativity between Group D and LDCs and LDCs and UDCs.
 (b) While creating the non functional grade in the grade pay of Rs. 4200 in the Central Secretariat, the Department of Personnel, which is the nodal department for all matters concerning the common categories, did not extend the benefit to the UDCs in the Subordinate offices.
 (c) The Staff side also pointed out the Department while restructuring the cadre of stenographers in the Central Sectt. earlier, had extended the benefit to all Stenographers in the subordinate offices.
 The official side stated that it was not possible for them to address the issue, whatever may be its justification in the background of the setting up of the 7th CPC. They however, assured to make a reference specifically to the Commission.
(v) Item No.5. Senior Clerks in DMS to be assigned grade pay of Rs. 4200. The matter was stated to be sub-judice. Staff Side, however, stated that, with the change in Recruitment Rules, they should brought at par with the Railways.
 (vi) Item No. 6 and 12. The two agenda items being identical were take up together. The Staff side pointed out the glaring discrimination in the matter. They also stated that the number of employees involved is very small. On behalf of the Postal Department it was stated that the recruitment qualification in the
 Postal Department was VIII Standard and ITI whereas in other establishment, the academic qualification stipulated was X Standard. The Staff side contested the same pointing out that no person is entitled to be admitted to ITI without having X standard qualification. They pointed out that the merger of Artisan Grade I and Charge hand was the root cause of the problem. The official side took the stand that in any case the anomaly cannot be removed at this stage and have to wait till the 7th CPC recommendations are made.
 (vii) Item No. 7. Parity in pay scales between the Central Sectt. and subordinate offices. The official side said that the up-gradation of the pay scale of Central Sectt. Assistants were on well found grounds. The Government had considered the repercussion of the said decision and therefore, the decision is not possible to be either reversed or extended to any other category of employees. They added that perhaps the 7th CPC before whom the matter is already agitated by the employees organizations of the subordinate offices might take a decision in the matter.
 (viii) Item No. 9 and 10. Higher grade pay for Medical Assistants and Store keepers. The Defence Ministry was asked to submit a detailed note to the Ministry of Finance indicating the duties and responsibilities assigned as also the recruitment qualifications stipulated in the RR to enable them to reconsider the issue.
 (ix) Children Educational Allowance for any two children. The official side stated that the deviation made in identifying the eldest two children was consciously done taking into account the National Population policy and various other factors and is not likely to be changed. Regarding the claim for reimbursement of expenses incurred in the nursery class, as such institutions or classes are not linked to any Educational Boards, the official side said that they would look into the matter with a view to find a solution thereof.
SOURCE - govemployees

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